needshumility: (in cold oxblood)
needshumility ([personal profile] needshumility) wrote2011-05-12 12:11 am

1.1.01.01.009: speech is to be kept at a polite volume.

If you met my dad?

I've got nothing to apologise for, or be angry about, or curse his name for. I just hope you liked him. He's a good Swatchman.

[Warden filter, minus infirmary staff, and Narvin.]

A certain... recent incidents have made me wonder something.

Does anyone come from a world where it's acceptable to kill others if they're going to die a potentially long, drawn out, horrific death? By which I mean kill using medicinal means, with given permission and consent. Not just... using a instant-kill-gun and shooting them.

Also, I will consider anyone who informs my inmate that I asked this question as officially undermining my position.

On another note, does anyone have an inmate who's left and then returned?

[Private to Jane]

Do not mention the Green Room. Especially to Victor.

Also, Scarlet Pimpernel?

[Private to Victor]

Alright. Let's discuss Rex.

[Private to Rex]

Would you mind if I asked you a few questions about Victor?

[Coma-investigation Filter]

I'm working on a questionnaire right now. I'll have something ready very soon. Looks like we need it.

Re: [Private]

[identity profile] needshumility.livejournal.com 2011-05-12 10:02 am (UTC)(link)
Unfortunately for you, I do.

And he's got a name. Use it.

[Private]

[identity profile] failedcreator.livejournal.com 2011-05-12 10:07 am (UTC)(link)
I do not wish to discuss Rex. Could we not perform the steak experiment instead?

Re: [Private]

[identity profile] needshumility.livejournal.com 2011-05-12 10:17 am (UTC)(link)
Not yet, no.

I want to discuss this. He's been prepared to discuss it with me, and I want both sides of everything. Especially your side, as I have to stand up for you as much as I have to try and work out what you're at fault for.

[Private]

[identity profile] failedcreator.livejournal.com 2011-05-12 10:24 am (UTC)(link)
I would prefer to do it now.

I do not like this assumption that I am at fault for anything in this matter. It was Rex who started this battle.

Re: [Private]

[identity profile] needshumility.livejournal.com 2011-05-12 10:43 am (UTC)(link)
From what I can see, you are both at fault, and I'd like to know how you think he'd started it.

[Private]

[identity profile] failedcreator.livejournal.com 2011-05-12 11:56 am (UTC)(link)
He mocked me after I was most unjustifiably attacked by the one known as Amanda.

Re: [Private]

[identity profile] needshumility.livejournal.com 2011-05-12 11:58 am (UTC)(link)
Yes, and doing that didn't come out of nowhere. Do you think the way you treated him after he returned with his scars had the slightest bit to do with it?

Or was he just being mean?

[Private]

[identity profile] failedcreator.livejournal.com 2011-05-12 12:05 pm (UTC)(link)
That was justified, as you well know. These scars are indicative of greater flaws within him.

He was not. He was being malicious for the sake of it.

Re: [Private]

[identity profile] needshumility.livejournal.com 2011-05-12 12:09 pm (UTC)(link)
No, they're not. They're no more indicative of flaws within him as they are in anyone else. It was not justified.

Can you not see how calling someone subhuman - someone clearly intelligent and capable of human thought and emotion - is offensive? Can you not see why he'd be upset by that, and yes, be malicious to you. I am not saying he was right to do so, but can't you see where he was coming from? Can't you see why how you spoke to him and treated him would lead to him acting as he did?

I'm not saying you're at fault. I'm not saying he's at fault. I'm saying you both are. He shouldn't react like that, no, but you shouldn't have inspired such anger and hatred within him either. Which your actions and words did, whether you want to believe it or not.

[Private]

[identity profile] failedcreator.livejournal.com 2011-05-12 12:15 pm (UTC)(link)
You- [Pause.] No. It is you who do not understand the situation. Rex is as the other creature was before. It masquerades as something good and decent, as something that is human. But it is not. It is not.

Re: [Private]

[identity profile] needshumility.livejournal.com 2011-05-12 12:18 pm (UTC)(link)
No, I've talked to him, he is human, it's not a masquerade, and I don't care if that's what you believe - if you tell someone you believe that about them, that they're no better than a creature, they're going to get upset, and they're going to react badly.

If nothing else, that should prove to you he's human.

[Private]

[identity profile] failedcreator.livejournal.com 2011-05-12 12:25 pm (UTC)(link)
You have merely fallen into his trap. I do not wish to listen to these ramblings.

Re: [Private]

[identity profile] needshumility.livejournal.com 2011-05-12 12:31 pm (UTC)(link)
No, Victor. I haven't fallen into any trap.

What I'm talking about here is basic human emotion. If you called me subhuman or implied I was some how deficient because I can't see in full colour? I'd be offended. I'd be seriously hurt. Especially if you just kept doing it, even after corrected.

And I know better than to actually get back at you, but I'd want to. I'd be angry, I'd want to show you even more that you were wrong to say that about me. But Rex got angry and made malicious comments to get back at you - it wasn't right, but it's not a trap set by Rex, Victor. It's him reacting to the way you treated him.

[Private]

[identity profile] failedcreator.livejournal.com 2011-05-12 12:53 pm (UTC)(link)
This is not the same. The inability to see colours has been reported by many in the scientific world. It is not comparable to the darkness within Rex.

I do not agree. It is not so. [But he sounds slightly less sure.]

Re: [Private]

[identity profile] needshumility.livejournal.com 2011-05-12 12:55 pm (UTC)(link)
But how much of that darkness have you perpetuated within him, Victor? Haven't you just made things worse, by treating him so badly?

And it might not be the same, but if you believed it was the same, you still shouldn't say it to me. Because it's offensive, and it will get a reaction.

[Private]

[identity profile] failedcreator.livejournal.com 2011-05-13 10:21 am (UTC)(link)
[Hitting his monster issues pretty hard there, Eddie.] This is not do. It is he who has done all thees things.

What would you have me do? Would you have me smile at him and hide the truth? Because I would not do such a thing.

Re: [Private]

[identity profile] needshumility.livejournal.com 2011-05-13 11:59 am (UTC)(link)
But why did he do those things, Victor? You were repeatedly rude and abusive to him, before he'd even hurt you.

I would have you realise this is your opinion, not some ultimate truth. And that expressing the opinion someone is inhuman like it is ultimate truth is offensive. Or, at least, admit some fault - see your role in this, and that if you want it to stop, it requires action from you both, not just him.

[Private]

[identity profile] failedcreator.livejournal.com 2011-05-13 12:09 pm (UTC)(link)
He did these things because there is darkness lurking within him. I did not cause that.

I will admit that my actions were not gentlemanly. But I will not gather the blame for the actions of Rex.

Re: [Private]

[identity profile] needshumility.livejournal.com 2011-05-13 12:42 pm (UTC)(link)
I am not asking you to take all the blame. I'm not saying his actions were right. I'm saying you had a role in provoking him. I'm saying how you treated him was bound to have an effect on him.

Re: [Private]

[identity profile] needshumility.livejournal.com 2011-05-13 09:29 pm (UTC)(link)
I'm not blaming you entirely, Victor. He did things wrong. His reaction was wrong, yes. But you have some level of responsibility for that - you provoked him. You pushed him and pushed him, from what I can see, with insult after insult.

It doesn't justify what he did, no, but don't think yourself entirely blameless in the matter either.

[Private]

[identity profile] failedcreator.livejournal.com 2011-05-14 08:06 am (UTC)(link)
[Pause. A very long pause.] You are trying to make me believe this, are you not?

Re: [Private]

[identity profile] needshumility.livejournal.com 2011-05-14 07:12 pm (UTC)(link)
I'm trying to make you understand it, yes. I'm not putting all the blame at your feet, Victor, but I am.

[Private]

[identity profile] failedcreator.livejournal.com 2011-05-15 01:43 am (UTC)(link)
I do not see why this is necessary.

Re: [Private]

[identity profile] needshumility.livejournal.com 2011-05-15 07:06 pm (UTC)(link)
Because you need to take responsibility for your part in things.

[Private]

[identity profile] failedcreator.livejournal.com 2011-05-17 09:41 am (UTC)(link)
What would you have me do? I have apologised, which he did not accept.

[Private]

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